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  • shev7

    veterán

    válasz Protezis #3 üzenetére

    es ez hogyan oldana meg azt a problemat, hogy a spam-et nem a spammelok, hanem zombigepek kuldik ki?

    ''Gee, Brain, what do you want to do tonight?'' ''The same thing we do every night, Pinky: Try to take over the world!''

  • dabadab

    titán

    válasz Protezis #3 üzenetére

    Your post advocates a

    ( ) technical ( ) legislative (x) market-based ( ) vigilante

    approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular i
    dea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

    ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
    (x) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
    ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
    ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
    (x) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
    (x) Users of email will not put up with it
    ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
    ( ) The police will not put up with it
    ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
    ( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
    ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
    ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
    ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

    Specifically, your plan fails to account for

    ( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
    ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
    ( ) Open relays in foreign countries
    ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
    ( ) Asshats
    ( ) Jurisdictional problems
    (x) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
    ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
    ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
    ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
    ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
    ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
    ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
    ( ) Extreme profitability of spam
    ( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
    ( ) Technically illiterate politicians
    ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
    ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
    ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
    ( ) Outlook

    and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

    ( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
    ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
    ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
    ( ) Blacklists suck
    ( ) Whitelists suck
    ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
    ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
    ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
    (x) Sending email should be free
    ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
    ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
    ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
    ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
    ( ) I don't want the government reading my email
    ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    (x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
    ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!

    [Szerkesztve]

    DRM is theft

  • KrenAtesz

    veterán

    válasz Protezis #3 üzenetére

    Fizetek 10e-t a netért, plusz még az e-mailért is? Ugyanmár...

    Mellesleg a Vistában lévő beépített mail tökéletesen szűri a spam-eket, max 1 héten csúszik át 1. És pedig a napi 30-at megkapom.. Innentől kezdve nem zavar. Kiürítem a spam mappát, és jónapot..

  • ftc

    nagyúr

    válasz Protezis #3 üzenetére

    aha...

    ha szal valkivel naponta 20 váltok levelet az 200FT... és ez 1 valaki....1 hónap latt elérném a 10K-s határt is...ez nem jó ötlet....

  • VladimirR

    nagyúr

    válasz Protezis #3 üzenetére

    miert kellene fizetni? a kuldesert? es ha nekem sajat smtp szerverem van (mint ahogyan van)? vagy a kezbesitesert? es kire terhelned a koltsegeket? a cimzettre? vegyen zakbamacskat? a feladora? es ha en a te/mas mailcime(d)rol kuldok levelet?

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